31-05-2015, 03:18 PM (This post was last modified: 31-05-2015, 08:42 PM by PJW.
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(28-05-2015, 11:10 PM)PJW Wrote:
(28-05-2015, 09:34 PM)ACE007 Wrote:
(30-04-2015, 11:53 PM)PJW Wrote:
(30-04-2015, 12:59 PM)dorothy.pipet Wrote: Thanks.
I'm sure it will become available. The Review was only done last night so we are behind relative to previous years.
I made some scribbles that I may find time to turn into notes over the weekend that I'll put here.
However since we were promised the Powerpoint slides will be posted on the main IRSE site, I didn't worry about capturing everything written there, but concentrated more on what else was said. The session was also being videod, so I would expect this to be made available on IRSE website in due course
We are in almost in June, I could not the find the exam review material on the IRSE website, can anyone point me in the right direction or provide a link where they can be down loaded?
The IRSE are never prompt I am afraid; I normally am with my unofficial notes, but this year for a variety of reasons, many of which connected with my paid employment consuming far more hours than it has any right to do, I have not yet been able to complete the write up although I had done half of it weeks ago. The weather forecast for Sunday looks poor which may make me more inclined to stay at home and complete.
Actually there is little of significance, no changes announced re next year's exam, and really at a generic level the message from examiners the same as ever
1 Be familiar with the syllabus
2 Do your homework reading etc
3 Read the actual question- do not assume that same as last year's or regurgitate text book
4 Practice, practice, practice
5 Get feedback on your attempts
6 Use your time in exam wisely- strict time management
7 make sure really read questions carefully, choose with care and do what it says including state assumptions, provide diagram etc.
Broadly this is the message year after year
Finally, best part of a month after I had hoped to provide, are my notes of the Review of the 2014 Exam; one benefit of the wait is that I have been able to incorporate more of the statistical information than I would have been able to do purely relying on my scribbles of the slides very rapidly shown on the evening.
Unfortunately I only made sketchy notes of the Question / Answer / Discussion section at the end and think there may have been some that I did not capture; if I had been able to write up more promptly my memory may have enabled me to make these fuller but the disadvantage of the delay is that my memory of this has faded with time.
If anyone has things to correct or add to any of these recollections, please post in this thread or let me know separately. Otherwise will just have to wait until IRSE makes the official notes and / or video available.
Probably the most important thing (other than the regular pleas about reading the questions, exam technique etc.) is that there seemed to be some pretty broad hints about what may be, and perhaps more importantly what is probably not going to be, in the exam paper of 2015. I guess that the examiners are even now beginning to discuss those questions so at the time of the Review even they would not have given much consideration, but obviously their mind-set having just marked one year's exam is liable to be a major influence for the contents of the paper they are likely to set for this year. Hence well worth reading and planning preparation accordingly!
I think IRSE has changed the criteria for Thorrowgood scholarship from this year onwards. Now IRSE site states that "The person with the highest marks in any one year, depending upon the marks achieved, is considered for the Thorrowgood Scholarship Award" whereas previously it was different and calls for some Outstanding result.
Hope from this year onwards we will have Thorrowgood Scholarship every year.
I think IRSE has changed the criteria for Thorrowgood scholarship from this year onwards. Now IRSE site states that "The person with the highest marks in any one year, depending upon the marks achieved, is considered for the Thorrowgood Scholarship Award" whereas previously it was different and calls for some Outstanding result.
Hope from this year onwards we will have Thorrowgood Scholarship every year.
What's your opinion?
Thanks Regards Amit Kumar
I actually do not think the criteria has changed, but perhaps expressed differently. Certainly only a maximum of one is awarded in a year. The highest is CONSIDERED but that is all; it does not say AWARDED. I do not think that a minimum standard has ever been specified, but I think that the set would generally have to include at least one Distinction with probably a couple of Credits; however perhaps a set of 4 Credits would also be as persuasive.
In 2014 there was no one of those who did 4 modules who did well enough to convince the examiners. It sounds that they were quite keen to award and so I understand (I think very unusually) they did look back at the 2013 results and see if there was a clear contender from the two years considered together but there was not.
Therefore many may hope that an award is made every year, but that will very much depend on the standard of exam entries.
If you achieve 2xD, 1xC, 1x(good)P then you'd stand a pretty good chance of getting the award I think.
I have been told by one of the examiners that my results so far put me in the running for a Thorrowgood Scholarship. Given I've done one paper of each 2013 & 2014 so far, and am going for 1 paper this year, I got the impression that there is not a time limit if your marks are sufficiently impressive.
Obviously if somebody is getting distinctions with 4 papers in one year that is more impressive and is going to trump my efforts.
12-08-2015, 08:09 PM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2015, 08:10 PM by PJW.)
(11-08-2015, 09:52 PM)dorothy.pipet Wrote: I have been told by one of the examiners that my results so far put me in the running for a Thorrowgood Scholarship. Given I've done one paper of each 2013 & 2014 so far, and am going for 1 paper this year, I got the impression that there is not a time limit if your marks are sufficiently impressive.
Obviously if somebody is getting distinctions with 4 papers in one year that is more impressive and is going to trump my efforts.
Interesting; perhaps they are beginning to realise that few take the exam at one fell swoop now and that it is more important to encourage overall quality than motivate people to sit all at once.
It would be easy enough to look at all candidate who FINISH the exam in any year and add up their summed previous performance. This would of course somewhat disadvantage those doing all modules in the one year as inevitably an entire day of exams takes its toll, so presumably as you say they would need to make some sort of compensation when evaluating the results.
I don't think that anything has been officially changed, but perhaps there is now a different interpretation; when the system was first set up the Exam could only be taken as an entity so anything written down would never have gone into detail for a situation that did not then exist - hence I guess there is room for interpretation and interpolation.
23-09-2015, 08:53 PM (This post was last modified: 23-09-2015, 08:55 PM by PJW.)
(11-08-2015, 02:14 PM)amitlohach Wrote: Dear PJW!
Thanks a lot for the such nice review notes!
Thanks Regards Amit Kumar
Thanks to Helen K (Chair of the IRSE YM) I have just learnt that the IRSE have now (frankly rather late in my personal opinion!) placed on the Members' area of the IRSE website the Powerpoint presentation and video recording of the October 2014 exam- see hyperlink below. http://www.irse.org/knowledge/members/webcastsrecent.aspx [You will need to login to the Members' area to be able to access it.]
You can now therefore hear exactly what the examiners said, rather than what I wrote from my scribbled notes of what I thought I heard.......
It may be worth a listen in this period just before the exam, to reiterate the message:
READ THE QUESTION PAPER
CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE MEANING OF THE QUESTION AND ITS RELATION TO THE SYLLABUS
CHOOSE THE QUESTIONS YOU CAN BEST ANSWER
ANSWER THE ACTUAL QUESTION SET (NOT LAST YEAR'S RECYCLED)
ANSWER ALL PARTS OF EACH QUESTIONS ATTEMPTED
MANAGE YOUR TIME WITHIN EACH QUESTION ACCORDING TO MARK ALLOCATION AND BETWEEN EACH QUESTION
